Curse

Eviance · Jul 14, 2006, 02:29 AM // 02:29

And here I was all excited about a new blooming thread! *sighs*

I feel the pain of the OP, but at the same time I go with my guild and most of us are only rank 1.... Not cause we suck, we just don't do HoH all that often, nor do we follow the typical leet builds.... We also love to take random newbs in with us to show them around so that they aren't stuck with "LFG for Miss" idiots -_-
That never fails to amuse me!

Anyways, get with a good guild and just join random crap teams and hope for a few wins here or there till you can at least say: "I know the maps!"

Saix The Spartan · Jul 14, 2006, 03:02 AM // 03:02

I Really, Really, REALLY hope they get rid of rank in ch3, i enjoy HA, the 2 times a month i can get into it. People think having rank means you have skill....it meas NOTHING, You could be the worst player in the world and be rank 10. Luck, and good teams. So yea, i hope they get rid of rank..I know i'm not alone on this.

Sanji · Jul 14, 2006, 03:04 AM // 03:04

/rank moar like /wank amirite

Seriously though, Anet did kind of drop the ball on a decent matching service for HoH.

Lady Lozza · Jul 14, 2006, 03:42 AM // 03:42

Friends, guildies and alliance buddies ftw.
That's how I got my rank, as the one or two times I tried pugging it ended in disaster.

New HA players want easy rank. So they sit around and complain about the lastest FotM and how the just can't manage to beat IWAY.

Experienced HA players want to win. So they don't take those complaining about how hard it is, and take people who have learned patience in order to get their rank.

To unranked players: Stop complaining. There isn't one FotM that can't be beaten - even by newbie players to HA. FotM can actually help you! Some of these teams (take IWAY) are really really newbie and pug friendly. Get off your highhorse and play and learn the maps, you'd be surprised and how far a little knowledge can go when whispering that R6 group that can't seem to find the final player they need. Furthermore if you play in a good group, remember who they are and play with them tomorrow, and the next day, and the next.

Finally, ranked pugs that won't accept someone who doesn't (quite) meet their requirements but EVIDENTLY has knowledge of HA and the maps aren't worth pugging with in the first place. Why? Flaming of team members or the ooposition is immature and irritating and these elitist players are the ones who do the majority of the flaming.

Yes, rank is a pain, yes there is "grind" involved. However those of us who enjoy PvP (no matter how infrequently we do it) don't feel that GRIND is necessary at all. You win some, you loose some, you learn. If you can't adopt this attitude then I don't think that HA is the right place for you at all.

Navaros · Jul 14, 2006, 04:45 AM // 04:45

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Originally Posted by Saix The Spartan

I Really, Really, REALLY hope they get rid of rank in ch3, i enjoy HA, the 2 times a month i can get into it. People think having rank means you have skill....it meas NOTHING, You could be the worst player in the world and be rank 10. Luck, and good teams. So yea, i hope they get rid of rank..I know i'm not alone on this.

This argument has always been ludicrous and makes no sense whatsoever.

If rank means nothing then yourself, the OP, and the zillions of others who complain about only getting into crap groups would be able to get into good unranked groups. The reason you can't get into good unranked groups is because good unranked groups do not exist. Unranked groups suck. R6+ groups generally do not suck --- which is precisely why you want to get into them so badly.

Therefore, rank does indeed mean everything.

Only those who are jealous of people with better ranks than themselves say otherwise.

anonymous · Jul 14, 2006, 06:22 AM // 06:22

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Originally Posted by Navaros

This argument has always been ludicrous and makes no sense whatsoever.

If rank means nothing then yourself, the OP, and the zillions of others who complain about only getting into crap groups would be able to get into good unranked groups. The reason you can't get into good unranked groups is because good unranked groups do not exist. Unranked groups suck. R6+ groups generally do not suck --- which is precisely why you want to get into them so badly.

Therefore, rank does indeed mean everything.

Only those who are jealous of people with better ranks than themselves say otherwise.

QTF, really, if rank doesnt mean anything, why arent the unranked groups winning?

croc · Jul 14, 2006, 06:25 AM // 06:25

If they get rid of rank, then how about all the items and gold as well.
I dont have time to farm, its unfair that others are richer than me...

0mar · Jul 14, 2006, 07:33 AM // 07:33

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Originally Posted by nohooiam

um, not really?

GvG has its share of garbage teams too. 3000 to be exact.

That you won't see ever if you win maybe 5 games in a row...

Yichi · Jul 14, 2006, 08:09 AM // 08:09

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Originally Posted by nohooiam

um, not really?

GvG has its share of garbage teams too. 3000+ to be exact.

which goes away after what like 30 mins of unranked guild farming? gg

pigdestroyer · Jul 14, 2006, 04:46 PM // 16:46

its funny how all these people complain... if you hate HA and rank so much then dont go there..

I was unranked 2 months ago but worked my ass off starting balanced unranked groups and eventually make it to r3, so stop whining and start playing

leprekan · Jul 14, 2006, 05:34 PM // 17:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Navaros

This argument has always been ludicrous and makes no sense whatsoever.

If rank means nothing then yourself, the OP, and the zillions of others who complain about only getting into crap groups would be able to get into good unranked groups. The reason you can't get into good unranked groups is because good unranked groups do not exist. Unranked groups suck. R6+ groups generally do not suck --- which is precisely why you want to get into them so badly.

Therefore, rank does indeed mean everything.

Only those who are jealous of people with better ranks than themselves say otherwise.

AMEN.

Sad thing is there are enough unhappy/unranked people in this thread to make a group. Instead of getting together in game and forming a group they come here and cry about how unfair the rank system is. EVERYONE that is high ranked started off with ZERO fame and went through the same problems finding a group. Yet the whiners want the bar lowered for them ... pathetic.

fiery · Jul 14, 2006, 05:36 PM // 17:36

My rant is now that the HOH title is visible I know feel the pain of HA grinding seeing its telling me I need 1,680 for rank 7.

Also while holding HOH, it should double the fame per hold.

Clone · Jul 14, 2006, 05:39 PM // 17:39

I've given up on most PvP long ago for the same reasons. The stupid rank emote and having to deal with rank nazi's will drive people away from this aspect of the game. It has certanly hat that effect on me.

Lord Dark Genie · Jul 14, 2006, 05:45 PM // 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Navaros

This argument has always been ludicrous and makes no sense whatsoever.

If rank means nothing then yourself, the OP, and the zillions of others who complain about only getting into crap groups would be able to get into good unranked groups. The reason you can't get into good unranked groups is because good unranked groups do not exist. Unranked groups suck. R6+ groups generally do not suck --- which is precisely why you want to get into them so badly.

Therefore, rank does indeed mean everything.

Only those who are jealous of people with better ranks than themselves say otherwise.

Plain wrong. "r6+ groups" generally suck quite a lot.

Stockholm · Jul 14, 2006, 05:51 PM // 17:51

I don't have anyting against RANK, or Titles, But disable PvP rank in PvE areas and PvE Titles in PvP areas, each have it's own place.
If you want to play PvP in HoH you have to get EXP, but not at the expence off the serious players, same as in missions in PvE, you have to grind and get EXP. anyway you can. NOBODY IS GOING TO GIVE IT TO YOU.

Aejorii · Jul 14, 2006, 06:13 PM // 18:13

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Originally Posted by Stockholm

I don't have anyting against RANK, or Titles, But disable PvP rank in PvE areas and PvE Titles in PvP areas, each have it's own place.
If you want to play PvP in HoH you have to get EXP, but not at the expence off the serious players, same as in missions in PvE, you have to grind and get EXP. anyway you can. NOBODY IS GOING TO GIVE IT TO YOU.

But I get groups for exploring 70% of Tyria!

...and being a drunkard.

"Drunkard LFG I have most of my skills.. I think"

nohooiam · Jul 14, 2006, 06:21 PM // 18:21

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Originally Posted by Lord Dark Genie

Plain wrong. "r6+ groups" generally suck quite a lot.

if r6 groups are a nightmare, then imagine being in a rank 0 group. no wonder people are angry.

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Originally Posted by anonymous

QTF, really, if rank doesnt mean anything, why arent the unranked groups winning?

those that win become ranked, so a winning unranked group is a PARADOX

Eviance · Jul 14, 2006, 06:23 PM // 18:23

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Originally Posted by anonymous

QTF, really, if rank doesnt mean anything, why arent the unranked groups winning?

I WOULD agree if someone didn't recently say that they not only made it to Halls, but took Halls and then HELD Halls with 4henchies from the start.

Smart people.... Iway sometimes takes skill but usually its mindless desease spreading from pets (which are much like henchies). Its a good build, I'm not knocking it... But if your puppies are winning the battle then rank is easily wracked up and you didn't really have to do a darn thing.

The fact that you cannot counter every build when you go in makes rank farming easy for cookie cutter builds.

No one is perfect and suggesting that a rank 3+ IWAY warrior would do just as well in a balanced rank 3+ group.... Well.. Lets just see how fast he falls without his puppy and necro... With gimmick builds it just doesn't take that much. For those who are pretty decent and running some form of balanced group, they cannot counter everything and thusly making it a bit harder to counter gimmick builds, since you never know what you will be up against till its too late.

My guild usually runs some form of balanced anti IWAY and when we do this.... The silliness is, we hardly ever run into IWAY o_O
Go fig? But our build has gotten us to halls a few times back when halls was still played by the masses and twice we went up against excellent guilds that typically hold Halls. While we were unable to take it, we did hold our own rather well against the onslaught.

So while in some instances I agree, when it comes to gimmick builds its just easy rank farming and to me that doesn't mean/say much for that player.

(Like the IWAY warrior who wanted to play stance tank for the balanced group >_> That was funny lol)